Tag: Safe Shot

Wednesday, March 23rd, 2011

Safe Shot Stuff

After I got home from completing my addon at the Washoe County Regional Shooting Facility under the direction of Armed and Safe on Saturday afternoon, Gary from Safe Shot called me. He heard I was in earlier in the day and that I had a complaint about the steep pricing and addon drama. I didn’t ask for him to call; he took it upon himself. I applaud him for that because good customer service is hard to find, especially it seems at times hard to find at  Safe Shot .

He told me that he didn’t know he charged me more than MSRP for the revolver when he sold it to me the day before and that he couldn’t fix that. The store paid more because it bought the revolver before Smith & Wesson dropped the price. The price drop happened recently, about six weeks before. To make up for the price gouge and the confusion about the addon, he couldn’t offer cash money, but he could offer some perks.

GB and I will enjoy at our next trip to Safe Shot :

  • Range fee waivers (2 @ $10)
  • Free box of ammo (2 @ about $30)
  • Free target (2 @ $2)

That’s a total of $84 in perks. It makes me feel better about the overpaid $30 and the mix-up about the addon. The only catch is that we go to redeem this offer on a day when Gary is working, or with his approval on a day he’s not working. This is to avoid any further chaos. I didn’t get this in writing and I’m kind of worried that when I go to use this offer, it will have disappeared somehow. I guess I’ll cross that bridge when/if I get there. This mistrust really shows how the service at Safe Shot has messed with my feelings towards them. I used to love them. I shot a gun for the first time at their range and that experience changed my life. I also purchased my first firearm from them. I hope that with good staff like Gary, the image of Safe Shot can be turned around.

For now, while Safe Shot can suck at times, Gary seems like an ethical, helpful guy who cares about customer service. He doesn’t earn commission, so he doesn’t benefit from me saying this, but it’s my advice that if anyone is going to buy a gun at Safe Shot , they should buy it through Gary. The rest of the staff seems confused, untrained and hampered in providing customer service by the owner and the owner seems rude and uncaring.

It’s my advice to the owner of Safe Shot that he should make himself scarce on the sales floor and let his staff and customers interact with competent management in his stead. He should focus on running this business from behind the scenes since his people skills are sorely lacking. Not everyone is cut out for retail; perhaps he should stick to the things he is cut out for. Maybe he’s good at the accounting/paperwork aspect of the business? I donno. But get that man off of the sales floor!

Anyway. I’m glad Gary called and I’m crossing my fingers about a successful Safe Shot range trip for GB and I sometime soon.

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Friday, March 18th, 2011

Armed and Safe Saves the Day

When I took my CCW class, I was in a tough spot in life. My not-so-nice ex-husband and I had recently separated and he had made some threats against me. Additionally, he left me with a lot of debt. I had a need for self-defense and no money to make that happen. I couldn’t even pay rent on my own. But GB helped me out by letting me borrow his Bersa Thunder .380 as a carry gun for me and Armed and Safe allowed me to take their CCW class for free through a scholarship for a female shooters made by an American soldier.

I knew Armed and Safe would help me with an addon just like they helped me to get my original permit, so after I left Safe Shot on Saturday disappointed that I couldn’t qualify there, I called Armed and Safe. Allan Main answered my call on his cell phone. He was out at the range setting up for a CCW class to qualify. He told me if I got my happy butt to the range before 1:45 p.m. that day, he’d qualify me right there. No range fee, no target fee, no fancy ammo. Just $5. Nice.

I had my range gear in the car with me as I was driving away from Safe Shot: eyes, ears and revolver. I stopped off at Sportsman’s Warehouse to pick up some ammo and then I floored it out to the Washoe County Regional Shooting Facility. Allan and Kelly Main of Armed and Safe had arranged for private use of a range to the left of the range I normally shoot at when I patronize this facility. It was a nice range; reminded me of the bay we used at the Sacramento Appleseed held at the Sacramento Valley Shooting Center.

Before exiting the car, I applied my eyes and ears, grabbed my gear and then bee-lined for the firing line. I checked in with an assistant of Kelly. I didn’t catch his name, and that’s a shame, because he was awesome. He bellied me up to the firing line, eyeballed my gun and told me a few things about it and revolvers in general. He revealed to me that he himself conceal carries a revolver. Good times.

Allan and Kelly both came over and checked out my new toy. I showed Kelly the laser (which I didn’t use to qualify; it’s not visible in daylight) and Allan showed me his sights on his revolver. The gentleman who was supervising me showed me his too: his front sight was painted with bright red nail polish. Nice!

On my revolver, the sights are black on black and set very close together both horizontally and vertically. This coupled with what I read online that my gun tended to shoot high and off to the side due to the insane trigger-pull on it inspiring people to drag wood or jerk the trigger meant I needed to be careful. So when the line was hot, I paid close attention to my trigger discipline. My first five shots were all high of my target, but they were grouped nicely, so I just had to work on my sight alignment and sight picture a little bit more. This was my first time shooting this gun, so I had to get used to it and I did. My next shots were right on.

Kelly surveyed my work and proclaimed me “qualified.” She filled out the paperwork and I signed it. Then, I gave her the quoted $5, plus a $5 tip for all of the help she and her two coworkers had provided. As we wrapped things up at the range, the rest of the class participants headed back to Scheels where their class was taking place and I went back home.

Grinning like an idiot.

Armed and Safe saved the day.

 

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Thursday, March 17th, 2011

Safe Shot Saturday

Bright and early Saturday morning (March 5th), I returned to Safe Shot Indoor Range here in Reno to see about adding my new Smith & Wesson Bodyguard 38 that I had purchased from them the evening prior. In purchasing the revolver, I was charged $30 more than MSRP for the gun and so the free addon offered the day before was really important to me as a way of off-setting that nasty price. Doing the addon at Safe Shot would mean that I would save an hour and a half drive time out to the Washoe County Shooting Range, the instructor fee and tip for an addon and the Washoe County Regional Shooting Facility range fee.

But doing my addon with Safe Shot just wasn’t meant to be, I guess. I walked in and talked to the lady at the shooting range counter downstairs about doing my addon for free. She didn’t know that they could do a free addon with the purchase of a gun and so went to check with the owner. But before she left the counter, she asked me what caliber my revolver was. I told her 38 special and she said that they were out of that ammo. That sucks. It’s too bad that they didn’t tell me they were out last night when they encouraged me to come back the next morning.

She remembered that for CCW permits, one revolver is as good as any, though, and went upstairs to ask the owner a few questions: Is the addon free? Can I shoot the .22 caliber revolver that they have since they’re out of 38? At first, the owner didn’t want me to shoot at all on the .22. He said he would do it for me if I was in his CCW class, but since I’m an addon and not a whole class participant, he didn’t want to do it. Then he said that he would do it and that he’d waive the instructor fee, but I’d have to pay a target fee, an ammo fee, a range fee and a fee to rent the .22 revolver. He told the lady to charge me nearly $60. I was not okay with that. I looked at her and said, yesterday I paid $30 more than MSRP for this revolver with the promise of a free addon today. I come back and find that “free” in Safe Shot vocabulary really means $60. I’m not doing it. I simply can’t afford it.

The lady recommended I come back after 1 p.m. when Gary starts his shift and see what Gary could do for me. I told her, I’ve already made three trips back and forth and I’m already out $600+, I’m not going to make another trip back here today that might cost me $60. I thanked her for her time and for trying to help me and she apologized for the mess and I left.

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Wednesday, March 9th, 2011

New Gun Purchase

On Friday, I received my tax return money. I took my car down and had some routing maintenance done with the bounty, but I had a bit left over. I was thinking about paying off a credit card with it, but GB had a great idea. When we had brought the car back home and entered our driveway, he said “Let’s go to the gun store!” We drove down to Safe Shot Indoor Range. Downstairs they have a lead-free, expensive to shoot at indoor range, but upstairs is a gun store complete with guns, holsters and gun-related clothing.

At the gun store, he heavily encouraged me to check out some of the revolvers there. A friend of his concealed carries a revolver and the grip doesn’t house a magazine, so revolvers might better fit my hands. I was nervous about checking out revolvers. It never crossed my mind to carry one. Aside from the “oh isn’t that cute” glance at a Charter Ladysmith, I never paid much attention to wheel guns. I shot a few at the Gun Bloggers Rendezvous last year, but I never took that experience further and sort of forgot about it.

I wanted to check out the Walther PK380. I have the Walther P22 and they’re basically the same style. The P22 fits my hand perfectly because of its adjustable backstraps, but Gary of Safe Shot said that the .380 wasn’t made with the same adjustable backstraps as the .22. Darn! With my Walther hopes crushed, Gary showed me some of their revolvers.

Gun Bloggers: remember Gary from last year’s GBR? He gave us the great tour of the Cabela’s gun room and arranged for delivery of all of our conference swag. He’s working over at Safe Shot now. Anyway…

I wasn’t hooked on revolvers because of two things: not very many rounds and no external safety. I wasn’t convinced that I could take down an attacker or two in 5 shots. I’m a new shooter, it could be dark, I’d definitely be scared. With no external safety, what if I’m so scared that I shoot myself in the boob drawing from my chest holster? But it couldn’t hurt to hold a few revolvers, so I did and I ran across one that fit my hand perfectly: the Smith & Wesson Bodyguard 38. It also had an integrated laser which made me feel better about carrying with fewer rounds in the gun.

To help me feel better about the lack of external safety, Gary put a pen down the barrel of the revolver and pulled the trigger, “shooting” the pen. Then he put the pen back down there and whacked at the trigger with a marker until the trigger sprung. The pen didn’t “shoot” although the trigger moved. This is because there has to be a certain amount of continuous pressure for the trigger to actually begin the process of launching a projectile. I also dry fired the revolver. The double-action long trigger pull isn’t something I’m going to be able to do by accident!

To make sure I’d like to carry this gun and that having it would shut me up, we went home to get my bra holsters.

GB said that he’s tired of hearing me complain every Sunday morning about wearing my Bersa Thunder .380 PRO UC. I love that gun, but it’s got a fat grip due to the double-stacked magazine, and if I don’t position that gun just right under my left boob or if my shirt isn’t cut generously through the chest there, I can appear as if I’ve sprouted a third nipple. To make sure this gun wouldn’t do the same thing when carried, we grabbed every holster I like out of the house.

I brought my cheap Uncle Mike’s in waistband holster and my collection of Discreet Carry holsters. I have a Discreet Carry DH-1 holster, a Discreet Carry LadyBUG bra mount under arm holster and a Discreet Carry LadyBUG Cleavage holster. This is where the fun begun. I went to a gun store fully prepared to take one of their guns and shove it down my shirt. Haha. (Don’t worry, I had an undershirt on to prevent any “flashing.”

When we arrived back at Safe Shot, Gary was no longer at the counter. I was sorely disappointed in this as Gary’s replacement (the owner’s grandson), didn’t impress me. He took the Bodyguard out of the case and passed it to me without checking it first. Yes, those guns should be unloaded, but just in case… check! He pointed it at me once and at GB once too. Again… the guns should be unloaded, but that’s not the point. The point is safety. Never point your firearm, unloaded or not, at anything you’re not willing to destroy. Period. And when he revealed that he was a concealed carrier, I lost even more respect for the man.

He had his gun tied to his pants and his pants tied to himself with bright red shoe laces. Uh, what? How is he going to draw his gun when his gun is tied down? And if he gets his gun out, where are his pants? Around his ankles? How is he going to be able to move swiftly in an emergency situation with his pants tripping him up?

Get a belt and a holster.

He wanted to wear baggy pants so that solution didn’t work for him. I told him get a belly band and wear it sideways. There’s no rule that says the belly band has to sit your gun in front of your junk. Sheesh. He seemed impressed by that idea, so hopefully he checks it out. At least he wasn’t phased by me sticking the store’s revolver beneath my clothing.

When it was time to checkout, Gary reappeared from the range below and rescued us from the inadequate gun salesman. Thank God! We completed the paperwork and sale with Gary and took the Bodyguard home for the night. Gary and I made plans to add the gun to my CCW permit the next day. Yay!

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Friday, November 5th, 2010

Safe Shot free CCW class with handgun purchase

Just an FYI– Safe Shot Indoor Range here in Reno, Nevada is offering a free CCW class with any handgun purchase. The student still has to pay for range fees and purchase special indoor use ammunition from Safe Shot, but it’s cheaper than the course, range time and ammo all three together. Taking the class here in town is also more convenient than taking classes from other companies which have you drive out to the Washoe County Regional Shooting Facility or to BLM land to qualify.

(I took my class from Armed and Safe. A bit of a drive, but they were awesome).

I’ve not taken any of Safe Shot‘s classes, but I have purchased two guns from them. One they had for sale cheaper than anywhere else and the other was slightly more, so if you do decide to shop with them, be sure to research local prices!

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Tuesday, August 10th, 2010

How I Got Comfortable With Guns

Part II

Goal: Getting me shooting.

GB didn’t plan on taking me to an empty, indoor range, staffed by a female range officer for my first range experience, but it worked out that way. And I’m glad it did. The range officer was able to give us her undivided attention as I learned how to maneuver a loaded gun. GB was very patient and kind with me. The cool selection of targets and the closeness of the targets really made a difference for me. If he had taken me to one of the other two ranges we’ve shot at since for my first time, I’m not sure I would have taken to guns as well as I did. They’re dirty and full of trash, noisy, windy, full of men and their big toys, sell cheap and ugly targets, the target stands are far away from the shooting line, etc. What a great first time this trip was! It was so perfect, it’s nearly a romantic experience for me looking back on it.

From there, GB accompanied me to two other outdoor ranges. He always babysat me and made sure I didn’t feel scared, alone, frustrated, stupid and more importantly, didn’t do anything unsafe. He was always willing to pack it in and go when I had had enough, even though inside he wanted to shoot longer. But by making sure each of my experiences shooting were positive ones, even at a sacrifice for him, he was making a smart long-term investment in building me into a range buddy.

The final step in winning me over to shooting was when I decided to go to an Appleseed. I had to break in my two new Appleseed guns and GB and I didn’t have any days off together between then and the shoot, so I had to go to the range alone. I knew what I was doing, I had my gear, I knew when to ask for help from the range master. I knew guns. I knew shooting. Awesome! Then Appleseed itself polished me off as a shooter. Now I didn’t outshoot any of the experienced shooters there, but I did keep up. I did improve. I handled my gun and my gear solo.

Lying three days in the Nevada dirt from dawn till dusk with my rifle was the most intimate shooting experience I could have possibly had. That Monday sunset marked a transformation in my life. Although I did not score Rifleman, I became a Rifleman.

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Wednesday, May 12th, 2010

Email Customer Service

I’ve been shopping around for a .22 rifle to take to Appleseed later this month. I settled on a Marlin 795 SS which I decided to purchase through Gun Genie. Gun Genie showed many retailers near me from whom I could order and I recognized a few of them: Weaver, Safe Shot, US Firearms Academy and Maccabbee. There is little consistency in the Gun Genie quotes with regard to the Brady fee, so I decided to email these local shops and ask them if the Brady fee was included in the price or not. Also, Weaver (with whom I haven’t shopped before) was cheaper than Safe Shot (at whose range I shot my first gun and at whose store I purchased my first gun). I emailed Safe Shot to give them the opportunity to price-match Weaver since they were my first, I’d like to keep my business with them as a reward. 

Here are the results of my emails:

Weaver- responded via email right away (25 minutes)! No, the fee is not included in the quote.

Safe Shot- responded mid-morning the next day. Didn’t answer the fee question or the price-match question. 

US Firearms Academy- email bounced.

Maccabbee- two days later, still waiting on a response. I understand they are a very small seller, but two days is a long wait in internet-time.

I ended up ordering with Weaver, simply because his email didn’t bounce and he responded quicker and completely to my email. I was bordering on ordering with Safe Shot, even with the higher price, but the lame one-sentence email reply really burst my Safe Shot bubble. I hope this purchase goes smoothly as my first Gun Genie and first Weaver purchase. 
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Friday, April 23rd, 2010

Appleseed is coming to town!

The Appleseed Project, a group which holds events around the U.S. to teach people how to shoot like a rifleman, is coming to Gardnerville, a town not far from me. They’re holding a three-day event and it’s FREE for female shooters, so I registered. Here’s a link to their website if you’re interested: http://www.appleseedinfo.org/

Now all I need is something to shoot while I am there! 

They recommend a 10/22 for the first day and something that shoots longer distances for the second day. I’ve been looking around for .22′s. Safe Shot Indoor Range has a pink Ruger 10/22 for sale. Cute! And Scheel’s had a Savage 10/22 with scope and zippered padded bag for about the same price as the pink Ruger. Walmart is sold out of Ruger 10/22s, but has a Mossberg Plinkster for sale. The Plinkster gets great reviews online and is uber-cheap, only $107. Buying that would leave me some money left over for ammo!

I’m a bit nervous about going. I haven’t had any formal shooting instruction. I’ve just been mooching guns, ammo and lessons off of my boyfriend, GB. I’ve only been to the range four times and only two of those times have I shot a gun that actually belonged to me ( I told you I was a mooch!)
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Tuesday, March 2nd, 2010

My First Gun Show!

Last weekend, I went to my First Gun Show! It was a snowy, snowy day and church was cancelled, so we decided to be naughty and go out on Sunday to the gun show! The roads were crazy, so we hitchhiked down to the show with our neighbors. I thought it was noisy, crowded and small (not in a bad way though : ) ). But GB thought it was BIG. I saw several things that I liked: magazines for my new Walther P22, padded zip up bags for handguns, padded backpack bags for rifles that unzipped to be a pad to lie down on while shooting and local honey. Yum.

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Wednesday, February 17th, 2010

First Gun Purchase

Me and GB went to several local gun shops in preparation for my first gun purchase. We scoped out Scheels, Cabela’s, Safe Shot Indoor Range and Mark-Fore and Strike Sporting Goods looking for a 9mm Bersa Thunder Ultra Compact. We have a Bersa Thunder .380 and it fits so nicely in my hand. Plus, Bersa firearms come with excellent warranties. With .380 ammo being so cost-prohibitive for me, I was hoping to pick up the 9mm. The Hi Point could share ammo with it and it (hopefully) would be small enough to fit in my hands and use comfortably. I wanted to try it on and get a feel for it before I purchased it, so we began to shop around.
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